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hello, everyone. i'm ashleigh banfield. it is 11:00 on the east coast. 8:00 on the west coast. i want to start with this story that you might have been watching the last couple of days. would dejays in australia decided to do a sxrang called the hospital where catherine, duchess of cambridge, was admitted. remember, she had pregnancy related morning sick must and in that hospital resting. those deejays got through to a nurse. a nurse wh thought that she was talking to the queen ask the prince of wales. and that call ended up going on the air live. if they thought it was hilarious, it really wasn't because the most tragic outcome of that stupid prank has happened. the nurse who took that call and transferred that call to the ward where the duchess was staying, that nurse has now committed suicide. we are hearing all of this from the hospital. they september out a statement. we are going to take you to london where all of this is just developing now. we are still gathering more details on all of this. and just a few moments, my
colleague, richard quest, who will join me live from london. just such an incredibly sad development to that story. we also have big news developing here on this continent. the new report out -- surprising one on the jobs. wow. check out the growth of the jobs in the united states in november. look at that number. triple digits. we weren't even sure if it dwoubl digits. 146,000 new jobs. it is more than twice what the economists were expecting. certainly this has got to be a -- good surprise. 25 days before those tax hikes and spending cuts and the white house and congress trying to avoid and the speaker of house about to address perhaps this and other things. >> our economy and threatening jobs and the white house has wasted another week. you know, eight days ago secretary of state geithner came here to offer a plan that had twice the tax hikes the president campaigned on. and they had more stimulus
spending than it had in cuts. and -- indefinite, infinite, increase of the debt limit like forever. four days ago we offer ad serious proposal based on testimony of president clinton's former chief of staff. since then, there has been no counteroffer from the white house. instead, reports indicate that the president has adopted deliberate strategy the slow walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. instead of reforming the tax code, cutting spending, the president wants to raise tax rates. even if the president got the tax rate hike that he wanted, understand that we would continue to see trillion dollar deficits for as far as the eye can see. washington has a spending problem. not a receive knew problem. the president doesn't agree with our proposal, i believe that he's got an obligation to families and small businesses to
offer a plan of his own. a plan that can pass both chambers of the congress. we are ready and eager to talk to the president about such a plan. >> mr. speaker, you did speak with the president earlier this week. can you characterize that call? did he have any kind of counteroffer? also, we understand that he just is making clear that it is -- got to be increase in rates for the wealthy or no deal. are you willing to give a little bit, maybe just not all the way to 39.6? >> it was the -- the phone call was pleasant. but it was just more of the same. the conversations -- the staff had yesterday just more of the same. it is time for the -- president, if he is serious to come back to us with a counteroffer. >> mr. speaker, the jobs report indicated unemployment is down roughly a palm point from this time last year. lot of folks in business communities say no deal is going to happen, it could obviously burn american jobs prospects.
where are a the jobs? they seem to be coming along. why take such a risk when the jobs number is improving? >> well, because -- the risk the president wants us to take increasing tax rates will hit many small businesses that produce 60% to 70% of the new jobs in our country. that's the whole issue here. >> what would it -- >> whoa, whoa, whoa. violating the rules. >> mr. speaker, the president was absolutely ready for the economy to go off the cliff if he doesn't get higher income tax rates. what's your reaction? >> i think that's reckless talk. >> you said before the election you would be able to prevent tax hikes on all americans said flatly taxes are not going up. do you still believe that to be the case? >> listen, raising tax owes small businesses is not going to help our economy and it is not going to help those seeking work. there -- i -- came out the day after the election to put revenues on the table, take a step towards the president, to try to resolve this.
when is he going to take a step towards us? >> do you see some way you can agree to tax rate increase and protect small businesses at the same time? going with the 37% or some middle ground -- >> there are a lot of things that are possible to put the revenue of the president seeks on the table. none of sit going to be possible. the president -- insists on his position. insist on my way or the highway. that's not the way to get to an agreement that i think is port-au-prince the american people and very important for our economy. thanks. >> there you go. speaker always short and sweet and had that intention of coming out at 11:00. and hit his mark. four minutes later, done with that. so the meantime, christine romans is there. she has been breaking down the jobs number. you heard him. he said that president -- the call with the president was -- more of the same.
and that the -- >> pleasant. more of the same. >> such a holiday spirit. look, this is critical because we are starting to see really hardened numbers when it comes to the taxation of the top 2%. >> let me tell you what the -- smart money on wall street is saying. one of the reasons why still have the dow above 13,000, they think that the president and democrats have held the line here and they have the upper hand and have the leverage. and the question now is what will the top tax rate be? right now 35%. it is going to go up to 39.5%. >> that's the wish list of the democrats. goes all the way -- >> 39.5%. >> pre-bush tax cut levels. so what will -- will -- you heard dan ask that question, ask is there room to negotiate on what the top rate will be? lot of people -- >> he didn't plans he didn't. a lot of people are saying that's where the -- where they are right now in negotiations. they are talking. not people in the negotiation. people who are watching and literally placing their money on their expectations and in the
stock market are thinking that's what the discussion will be. >> maybe even -- hoping -- i will tell you what, rhetoric does not lead to any discussion that they might even be hashing numbers. i'm not talking about that clause. and -- speaker boehner said that we need a counterproposal from the white house. the white house said no, this is our offer. we are sticking to it. >> i wish i could name the reporter. it was so low audio i couldn't hear who it was asking about the jobs numbers and whether this -- whether this stance at a time when the jobs numbers are looking -- lot of people said extraordinary. >> starting to improve. look at the mums. 146,000 jobs created. right to point out that's twice what the economists were expecting. you didn't see a real pullback because of sandy in the numbers. maybe that will come in next month. look at the unemployment rate on the right there. 14.4%. the real unemployment. people that are working part time, want to be working full time, people out of work. >> by the way, that unemployment number, real unemployment number, is the same one we have
low unemployment, too. when we low unemployment, it is actually high when you get the real numbers. >> these are the sectors we are flipping through. 43,000 jobs created. anyone trying to get your kid in college, government pointed out computer systems analysts and related fields very strong demand. that fits in that professional business services. good pay in that field. let's talk about the breakdown of race. african-american unemployment went down a little bit. 13.2%. >> still way too high. >> notice the disparities between the worker groups are still a problem. structural problems there. but the african-american unemployment rate went down and that's the trend. we have two years and change now of -- month after month of solid jobs creation. >> march of 2010. >> that was -- march of 2010, that was -- census hiring. and stimulus. >> quick question. this is a bit of a -- i read
this report this morning that there were 600,000 jobs that could not be filled -- more than half a million jobs that couldn't be filled across this country last year, i believe, because we just didn't have skilled enough workers. and the first thing i thought was because we are not teaching them sciences or computer or technology. much of it had to do with up can't even answer a phone. you don't have social skills. you can't say please and thank you and do as you are told. what? >> i would like to see that report. i was just talking to someone that does manufacturing who works so many manufacturing policy in the government that said some of the numbers are overblown. some of those numbers, in fact are. i think you had someone from the consulting group saying? of those numbers are because -- you know, employers are not training and are not paying up for the skills. >> some of the argument has been that our education is so dismal we are not teaching people -- hold the phone for a minute here. dana bash from capitol hill is joining me. i heard your question. it was right on point. it was, i believe, question number one for the speaker. which was -- are you willing to start negotiating on the numbers
of that top taxation issue between 35 and 39.5. you didn't get your answer. >> reporter: i didn't get my answer. but -- certainly other people were asking similar questions. i'm not sure if could you hear the questions from other reporters. finally, there was one question that asked about whether there is some middle ground on the republican position on the tax rates. the speaker speaker didn't say no. that was one of the most significant moments of this press conference. he didn't say no. his answer was basically that's -- you know, he's willing to talk about a lot of things if the president moves off his my way or the highway attitude. so that was -- again, that's pretty write significant. the other thing that, again, not sure if you could hear the question, somebody asked about the fact that timothy geithner, treasury secretary, said he's willing to go off the cliff if -- if it means giving in on those tax rates for the wealthy.
the speaker called that reckless. what we saw here, big picture, is the speaker trying to do what he did all week long. which is to change the narrative and -- from where it is right now, republicans admit that -- republicans are being unreasonable. republicans won't give in on raising tax owes the wealthy. to the president it is beis bei won't come back with a proposal. pegs. >> i wonder if he will get his wash to have congressional leaders to step aside and let the president and me do the business that we need to do. dana bash, i have to jump. thanks. if you could continue working that for us because i know there will be further developments hope reply today. one thing that's critical with what the speaker just said, whether that will have a bearing on the stock market, certainly what happened this morning with
the jobs numbers, that's got a bearing on the market. 146,000 new jobs for november. it is good news for investors, believe it or not. 25 days away from the fiscal cliff, those new jobs number could also be good for president obama and might end up giving him some of the leverage dana was talking about. listen to this. >> president obama's argument has been that the economy is doing well enough it could handle a tax hike. if the economy were in recession as we saw last time, then he would be reluctant to lift that top rate. if the economy is growing sharply, then if -- the -- some damage from lifting the top rate then maybe the economy can afford it. now the gdp growth number is not as strong as the jobs report. but if we a weak jobs report, then i think the president would have a really, really hard time getting people, even moderate democrats, to increase the marginal rate. the fact it is a strong report, i think, puts wind in the sails. >> wind in his sails. that's not necessarily what the speaker was saying. let's get straight total son
kosik live at the new york stock exchange. >> raw numbers. what is the dow doing? >> we are not seeing the wind go in a strong direction towards the positive direction. you are seeing a mixed bag with stocks now. that's because, you know, despite the huge shocker of this report that was a surprise to the upside, investors see it is they are going to be cautious about this because the reality is you look at that jobs report and a lot of those jobs that were added were seasonal ones. retail, travel and leisure. guess what. the real question here is how many of those jobs are going to go away putting people back on -- on the unemployment line after the holidays are over. plus, you look at that drop in the unemployment rate. yeah, looks good for a headline. but -- 350,000 people dropped out of the work force and in november. so with fewer people looking for work that pushes the rate down. truly yeah, there are some bright spots in this report. it does show the economy is holding relatively stable. but -- we really need to wait a couple of months and look back at the trend to get an idea of how healthy or unhealthy the
labor market really is. >> you know, the obvious is down is bad and is up good. what do these numbers not telling us? >> they don't show that consumers and don't show the businesses are still really, really worried about how strong or not strong the economy is. look, you are talking about the fiscal cliff, 25 days away until these tax hikes and federal spending cuts go into effect. you are looking at wall street. it is not making any big moves because of the uncertainty of what is going to happen with this. how long are politicians going to continue dragging their feet. and it is not just wall street. you know, it is beginning to eat into consumer confidence. we just got this index, university of michigan consumer confidence index. just a short time ago, this morning. it showed that consumer confidence plunged and in the first week of its month because americans don't know what to expect taxwise. that's a bad sign for retailers at the most important time of the year. the holidays. because guess what, if consumers aren't feeling confident, they are no going to spend. that domino effect that hit retailers, many of these retailers depend on the holiday
sales to push them into a profit important the year. this is what's weighing out there in -- you know, for consumers, yes. fiscal cliff definitely weighing on things. despite the fact that the jobs number came in strong today. >> sure. uncertainty can hit us at all different levels. thank you. i just want to do one thing before we go to break. check the market again. i think as we went to alison, around 13.8. somewhere around there. we just jumped a point. how about that. we are not in exact real-time but pretty close. a regular guy with an irregular heartbeat. the usual, bob? not today. [ male announcer ] bob has afib: atrial fibrillation not caused by a heart valve problem, a condition that puts him at greater risk for a stroke. [ gps ] turn left. i don't think so. [ male announcer ] for years, bob took warfarin, and made a monthly trip to the clinic to get his blood tested. but not anymore. bob's doctor recommended a different option: once-a-day xarelto®. xarelto® is the first and only once-a-day prescription blood thinner for patients with afib
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very serious issue. yesterday's news. while same-sex marriage isn't a new thing because several other states legalized it within the last decade. washington's marijuana law makes it the only state that allows recreational pot use. by the way, colorado is just a couple of months away from enacting the very same freedoms. while it seems legal, is it really? those two states voted to make it so but the federal government still says it isn't so. quite frankly, nobody really knows who trumps who here in the political debate. the governors of both of those states say that the feds haven't even started talking to them yet. but how to reconcile these two laws that are diametrically opposed. the feds may be tipping their hands when and making plans for a bit after crackdown on these brand-new state freedoms. what the feds do could ultimately reverse what those states did.
more likely what the state voters did which means that the supreme court may end up the ultimate referee in all of this. joining me now is the former u.s. attorney general in the bush administration, alberto gonzalez. probably one of the better voices to ask about what's happening. thank you so much for being on the program. did you see this coming, first of all? did you see these momentous shifts in the last election coming? >> no. no. i didn't. obviously, as you indicated, in your opening remarks, it is still against federal law to smoke, to possess, to sell marijuana. it is still -- a schedule one controlled substance and so -- even though under state law it may be lawful and in washington state and in colorado, i believe, january 5, it will become lawful. nonetheless, the u.s. attorney in washington has been very clear in saying that it is a violation of federal law and our job as department of justice employees is to enforce federal law. >> do you agree with the federal
law? do you agree the federal law should remain that -- pot use and -- smoking, trafficking, selling, administering taxes on, pot use, should all be illegal state to state? >> well, listen, that law represents value judgment of congress as to what is right important the american people. so -- you asked me whether or not i had personal views about it, i certainly do. as a general manner it does represent the will of the people through the actions by congress. i personally believes the a mistake. i certainly am -- being a former state official of texas, certainly believe in the rights of the states to make these kind of decisions for their own people. but i -- i -- here we do have -- a field you can argue has been preempted by the federal government, regulatory scheme that has been in place important decades. we have -- the dea whose sole job is to go after these kinds of drugs. and so -- i think this is an issue that's ultimately going find its way to the supreme
court and there are various options that the u.s. government can take. i think this is -- this does present some serious challenges for the federal government. i think that's the reason why you have yet to hear what the department of justice is going to do. obviously, i -- my understanding is that under the regulatory scheme there in washington state, they have a year to put in place a regulation with respect to licensing and taxing of these kinds of sales and i think that what the department of justice is doing is evaluating what is the best way, what's the best course of action moving poured. >> i'm so interested to hear you say, you know, as a conservative, who -- who appreciates state rights, i just -- would like you to weigh in on whether you think that the federal government should get involved and perhaps trump the rights of those states in what those voters have enacted. as a conservative who believes in state rights but perhaps says the conservative who may not appreciate the legalization of marijuana, what do you think
should happen? >> well, for my own perspective, if in fact the -- people in colorado and washington state, they want to smoke marijuana and does not affect me as a general manner, i would say okay, putting aside the fact we have a federal law, the concern i have is -- there are many reports that prolonged marijuana use results in long-term health care issues. and -- to the extent that someone smokes marijuana in washington state and they do it for a number of years, the development -- develop medical problems and so they need some kind of unique or extraordinary health care, and somehow mine tax dollars that i pay to the federal government find their way into the state of washington state to help pay for the health care, i have no interest in my tax dollars being used to subsidize marijuana use in a different state. so if we could keep that conduct within the parameters of those states, i think it makes a much stronger argument for respecting the decision of the will of the
people in those states. but i don't think you can do that. and, again, we do have in place already this federal scheme to deal with scheduled i controlled substances. >> i have got to get you to weigh in on what you think the supreme court may or may not do with regard to same-sex marriage today. >> i think that it is going to be a very difficult issue in terms of whether or not -- i don't think the court needs to reach the fundamental question as to whether or not this is a fundamental right. the court has said marriage general sly a fundamental right but with respect to issues relating to gays the court imposed a level of scrutiny and not strict scrutiny which means laws and actions with respect to gays are afforded more respect by the supreme court. hard to say but i think this is an issue in a case that everyone will watch very closely. >> i think you will be watching closely today to see what happens along with the rest of us. judge gonzalez, thank you for your time. i look forward to another
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we mentioned off the top of the program that the nurse in england who fell for a prank phone call from two radio deejays in australia and ended up revealing some private health information about the duchess of cambridge, well, that nurse has now apparently committed suicide. richard quest is live now in london with more on this story. you know, we just could not believe this development when it crossed the wires. it is just so incredibly sad. >> absolutely. and -- more than the usual amount of time before we were prepared to broadcast it because no only did the entire -- raw fact of what happened become so horrifying but also there was -- potential for confusion over who
had killed themselves. first, was it the nurse-receptionist that put the call through or was it the woman that gave the information? we now know it was the nurse who put the receptionist -- nurse as well, who put the call through. the hospital says that she worked at the hospital for four years and was very well liked. the duke and duchess of cambridge described themselves as very saddened, deeply saddened, to learn of the death of the nurse, according to st. james palace. and the -- the fact -- i mean, one's even -- stumbling to find the words, the prank that took place was clearly so -- so affected this woman that she just -- she committed suicide. >> richard, do we actually know this? i mean, has anybody been able to make this definitive connection between what happened to her with the prank and -- i know it
is approximaproximate in time. do we really know this is a cause and effect? >> no. i mean, you are -- if you are asking for the level of certainty that -- then -- no. until we get a statement that links the two. however, that said, if you are askinging the fact that -- if we look up at what we have been told by the hospital, we know the person that was involved, and we know the facts as they have been presented to us, she was found unconscious in a room mere the hospital. she was the receptionist who was involved in passing on the call and the hospital has made no effort to at least distance the two stories. so -- it is an acceptance here certainly that there is a connection between the two events. >> of course, what of the deejays and the radio station in australia? has there been any comment from
them? >> no. and we wouldn't necessarily expect that. it is the middle of the night in sydney. i'm guessing it is 12:40 now, difference. you are looking well into the early morning hours, half past 4:00, 5:00 on a saturday morning and no doubt that is where the reaction. they have already said they apologized and -- if you -- listen to what the deejay said after the story initially, they said they never expected they would be believed with their upper crust accents of the queen and prince charles. we almost definitely not repeating the tape at the moment of what was broadcast or what the prank was. that would be in bad taste at the moment. but if you do listen to i, it does somewhat incredulous. but that's the way it is. i don't think i gave you a proper and full answer to your previous question. the metropolitan police say that they are not looking for anybody
and there are no suspicious circumstances. so the fact that this woman committed suicide is pretty much beyond doubt. just to sort of give thank you reason why. she was -- killed herself in some other way. >> richard, it is such a sad story any way you look at it. you are right. we are not airing that portion of the audiotape. just in respect important everybody involved in this story, richard quest, live from london. i wish we could talk under different circumstances. thank you. fifteen bucks on ro. wow! that's a savings of over 29 bucks! twenty-nine bucks!!?? and they're powered by friendship. see for yourself if you could save on the brands you want. walmart.
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defense marriage act. california's proposition 8. they made their way to the high court's doorstep. at least one -- at least one, is kind of likely to get on the docket. sooner rather than later. while we wait, the best person to talk about that is cnn's senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin who literally wrote the book, or a couple of them, on the supreme court. i was talking to you last friday. i was talking to you monday. you are back for another friday. are they going to make me wait again for another day? are or are we going to get something today? >> those that know don't tell and those that tell don't know. that's the rule with the supreme court. it seems likely we will hear if not today then very soon. also, we should hear that they are going to take the case. remember, two federal appeals courts have now declared the -- >> when you say the case -- >> the defense of marriage act. proposition 8 is a very separate matter. when a federal appeals court
declares an act of congress unconstitutional the supreme court almost always takes the case. >> two federal courts have said this. you feel as though this would be a slap in the face of jur jurisprudemt. you also characterized before when we talked about dabbing your toe into the water, dipping your toe into the water, of gay marriage across country. easier toe. >> it is a fairly limited law. what it says is that the practical government will not recognize same-sex marriages even in the states where it is legal. internal revenue code, all of that, they will not treat people married in massachusetts or here in norg as if they are married under federal law. two courts have said that is unconstitutional and discrimination against gay people. obama administration says it agrees that the law is
unconstitutional so the house of representatives has hired outside lawyers to represent the law. >> because justice department has said you know what, this is ugly and we don't like it. it is here. but we are not going to enforce it. if this goes to the supreme court, who argues on behalf of the government? if the government does want to discuss it who discusses it for the government? >> paul clement, very distinguished lawyer hired by the house of representatives. former solicitor general under george w. bush. he argued the health care case and argued the arizona immigration case. she a very experienced advocate. that position will be very well represented. >> strangely we wouldn't have the current solicitor general. >> it happens, you know, about once every ten years. when the department of justice says we cannot represent the government. we just think that this is beyond the pale. that's what he is there done here. >> let me flip to prop 8. just so everyone is clear what jeffrey was talking about with the defense of marriage act is narrow and affects a lot of benefits, technicalities.
>> only in states where it is already legal. >> it ain't the law. land. doesn't mean everybody can get married if they are gay anywhere else. the law of the land could very much be affected by what the supremes decide to do with prop 8 in california. >> different case. absolutely. proposition 8, fundamental issue in that case is under the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment -- >> there you go getting technical there it is not that technical. >> trick write stuff. >> 14th amendment says equal protection of the law shall not be abridged. everybody has to be treated equally. what the plaintiff said in the proposition 8 case is that denying gay people the right to get married in california -- >> prop 8. denies you the right -- >> is a violation of the federal constitution. p the court were to take up that issue, that case would have the potential to apply in all 50 states. that is the case that could tell
arkansas and mississippi and alabama, you have to have same-sex marriage. place which are very hostile to the idea. >> if the supremes take up prop 8 and rule on it in the affirmative, it means gay marriage across the country. if they -- if they take up prop 8, rule in the negative, it means marriage bans can stay and you can get married in california and it means every state gets to do what it wants to do. >> correct. >> if it chooses not to look at prop 8 at all, you can get married in california. >> you can get married here in new york. it is a big -- big tourist attraction now. >> but will would be no precedent if they decided not to adjudicate. >> basically. right. well, what would happen is that same-sex marriage would become legal in california. potentially today. if they deny certiary -- it
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skin. how light, how dark. it is a country of people who 90% of whom would be considered black. but officially jamaicans broke down in color into the shades white, olive, then light brown, then dark brown. then black. this was -- it was official. and if you guessed that it was better to be on the lighter end of that scale, you would be right. it made a huge difference in their potential for success even today. decades later. if you think that color test in jamaica didn't exist here in the united states, you would be dead wrong. there was something called the brown paper bag test. yes. in the u.s. it was started in the early 1900s. the african-american community. it was considered that if you were darker than a brown paper bag you weren't allowed to join certain social groups, fraternities, churches. 22-year-old teacher kiara lee does not want the lessons from the past to escape the youth of
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